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Monday
21Dec2009

Your Opinions Here- Monday's Open Debate

What are you thinking about today's news and commentary?

Happy, upset, have a question, want to make a point?

Debate* other people?

Here's the place - post your opinions by hitting the Comments link below.

 

*Debate = a reasoned exchange of ideas and facts.



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Charlie:

"Stop fighting to the Chihuahuas,they're making you crazy....if you still so.....you'll end it up....talking to your self....or listening voices in your head.......be care fuel, get real.....many crazy people at first believe in the Aliens...now they're live in a mental hospital,,,,,,,,,"

It is clear you speak from direct, personal experience.

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHowie

Let's have a little fun for a change...

People keep saying El Grupito is racist...well tell the truth guys...what "group" truly drives you nuts...not that you hate and want to kill...but drives you nuts and, on the other hand...what "group" do you enjoy the most.

I hang around a lot of people from various nationalities...one of the things that we laugh about is how much our OWN group tends to just drive us crazy...I have seen this a lot and have some theories on it...but those sessions are funny as hell...

So for me...as much as I love my people and a large percentage of my closest friends are from my own people...Jews and Israelis can drive me NUTS.

Next on my list would be Chinese women and French people.

Group I tend to feel most comfortable with...are you ready? ...After the Jews/israeli's that make me insane...but I love them....it would be Mexicans without a doubt that I have always feel most comfortable around overall.

If folks want to keep rehashing immigration...go ahead...but if you get into the psychology of what I am talking about here...it is quite interesting...how we can be drawn to and then repelled by our "own"

Yes...Charlie...I know the human race is your people...fine fine fine

I am stuck working in front of my computer and need some laughs...woke up sick.

If anybody finds this interesting...I can tell you why.

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHowie

______Howie and his pupils

"Stop fighting to the Chihuahuas,they're making you crazy....if you still so.....you'll end it up....talking to your self....or listening voices in your head.......be care fuel, get real.....many crazy people at first believe in the Aliens...now they're live in a mental hospital,,,,,,,,,"

Where's your disciple....you know the ones who says ,,,,el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz.......

It seems he has abandon you?...

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie Stud

Mr. FRANK, Mr. Howie, et al.

" Semper Fi " ........I am still here. Making comments with this " Devils' Advocate " is beyond my patience. He flies above " Sputnick " . Good Trails To You.

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRobert L.A.

Frank...

I like him...but I like a lot of mental cases.

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHowie

---Howie

I can't deny I laugh about all the nonsense from the little group, for example when Frank says, all the illegal that have came to me to do a report of income tax are all of them a bunch of insane people because they just want a return........No one will believe this nonsense,,,,because I don't think the 15 million people went to Franks office to fail a report, later he gave some examples to reaffirm his argument. but he forget that we are in the 21 century in which everyone have access to the internet. to find out all the tricks hiding in there........

In my case I feel comfortable. with all kind of people..especially when these people are my friends....the people I can't stand..detesting the most are the criminals regardless ethnicity I don't care your race if you are a Criminal you never will be my friend.....in the other hand if you respect the law with a good behavior you're candidate to be my friend.......I have a lot of respect to the people who accomplished a career specially, when the person break the barriers of poverty....this action demonstrate that when the individual has decisive courage the goal is catch-able.......

And yes we can have a lot of fun!.....just tell you disciples not to talk incoherences................

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie Stud

I'LL TURN OFF MY RADIO BECAUSE I AM SICK AND TIRED OF LISHENING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER, ABOUT VILLARAIGOSA AND HIS TRIPS, BUT FERNANDO WILL NEVER ATTACKS OUR GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHAR.... YOU WILL NEVER HEARD FERNANDO TALKING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL.....AND THAT A SHAME

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFCO.D.R.

Charlie...

Actually...I had an epiphany today about the whole race...thing...especially LIKING a certain group...

I think it is a bit like falling deeply in love...woman for man or man for woman or gay/gay or whatever...I think you have to romanticize the other person...close your eyes to certain things and make certain things greater than what they are.

You can look at a given group and...what is the word I am looking for...I can't think of it now...but paint them in the same way...they look; cool, exotic, unique...bigger than life...same way you can hate a group....but but giving that group the opposite attributes of what I had just mentioned.

Anyhow...just one of the many things I think about besides immigration and Charlie...in my list of things to worry about...contrary to how I might sound...immigration and illegal immigration is not very high up on my list...there are bigger issues...that is...unless the French start creeping over the border like Mexicans...

December 21, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHowie

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